Matt White (zeldagamerlink) wrote in goon_ratings,
Matt White
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Right and wrong...

This post started as a return comment to tonerboner's comment to this post.


You are right about alot of things with this, but you do forget that Nintendo has a history of overcoming the odds. Lets see, they are still around, Sega is gone. They kicked themselves in the face by making and selling the playstation, but they are still fighting the good fight, and they aren't losing money on the gamecube, gba/gbasp, or the ds like sony has ALREADY lost on the PSP. The truth of the matter is that the PSP is awesome. No matter what, I love it, and want it VERY badly. But the PSP has already lost the company so much money they are going to have a hell of a time making it up. Despite the fact that they are selling PSP's well, they haven't even made a dent in how much it cost them to make it with its current profit, or lack thereof, from it.

So at the current rate, Sony will be out of gaming before Nintendo. And no, not "just because" of the PSP. Also, they have their, "legal battle" that is going to take a HUGE effect on their profits. You can't lose 90.6 million dollars, be told to remove your PS2's, PSP's and many game titles, and expect to stay afloat. Yes the case has been appealed, so they have more time, but they have no chance of getting a reversal. All an appeal does is see if the evidence used was stable enough to carry the sentence, they are screwed in that respect because they used the EXACT technology that the Emmerson Company patented for copyright. Microsoft, in case you didnt know also got in trouble for this but they were smart enough to take care of it out of court for 20 million dollars, then they bought 10% of the company.

But, back to the point I was trying to make. Nintendo doesn't lose anything on the "vibration technology" they used because it was their own design and they got an agreement with Emmerson before they implemented it. So, those TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS that the PS2 outsold the other two has been consumed, by the THENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS that they lost in the Emmerson battle, and the MILLIONS they currently are under in the wait for the PSP to turn a profit.

Now, to the defense of Sony, they are not gonna fall off the gaming market from any of this. They are only going to have drawbacks. They will financially suffer for sometime, but, they will kick back, and hopefully very strongly.

Back to Nintendo, they are finally planning out the big beyond. Yes they are making online plans. GASP! Of course though, a little late for the Gamecube. So the Revolution, thats the codename for the next Nintendo, is going WI-FI. Along with the WI-FI for the DS. They, "plan to have an active agenda for online play for the next generation of Nintendo products", which, starts with the goliath of games the DS has coming to it by the end of the year. The most noteable game to have the Online feature will be Animal Crossing DS, which AC was awesome so you can only figure as much from a DS version. The DS is about 6 to 7 months set in now, and it still has few titles, which hinders it, but their are many on the way. Which goes back to the PSP, which thank god has about 20 games at release. But, what the DS has that the PSP lacks is new games. Yes it has GT4, and a game or two else, but A remake of MGS, and of Spiderman 2 (which might I add is one of the worst games to date), a hacked up tetris, a remixed THUG2, a NFSU Rivals, and ALOT of sports games that have been out. Yes there are many games,

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Title
Genre
ESRB
Rating
# of
Players
Publisher

Ape Escape: On The Loose
Action Everyone 1-2 SCEA

ATV Offroad Fury: Blazin' Trails
Racing - Offroad Everyone 1-4 SCEA

Darkstalkers Chronicle: The Chaos Tower
Action Teen 1-2 Capcom

Dynasty Warriors
Action, Adventure Teen 1 Koei

FIFA Soccer 2005
Sports - Soccer Everyone 1-2 Electronic Arts

Gretzky NHL
Sports - Hockey Everyone 1-2 SCEA

Lumines
Puzzle Everyone 10 1-2 UbiSoft

Metal Gear Acid
Strategy Mature 1-2 Konami

MLB
Sports - Baseball Everyone 1-2 SCEA

MVP Baseball
Sports - Baseball Everyone 1-4 Electronic Arts

NBA
Sports - Basketball Everyone 1-2 SCEA

NBA Street Showdown
Sports - Basketball Everyone 1-4 Electronic Arts

Need For Speed Underground Rivals
Racing - Action-oriented Everyone 1-4 Electronic Arts

NFL Street 2 Unleashed
Sports - Football Everyone 1-4 Electronic Arts

Rengoku: Tower of Purgatory
Action Mature 1-4 Konami

Ridge Racer
Racing - Sports-oriented Everyone 1-8 Namco

Smart Bomb
Puzzle Everyone 10 1-4 Eidos

Spider-Man 2
Action Teen 1 Activision

Tiger Woods PGA Tour
Sports - Golf Everyone 1-4 Electronic Arts

Tony Hawk's Underground 2 Remix
Extreme Sports - Skate Teen 1-4 Activision

Twisted Metal: Head-On
Shooter - Car Combat Teen 1-6 SCEA

Untold Legends: Brotherhood of the Blade
Action, Adventure Teen 1-4 Sony Online Entertainment

Wipeout Pure
Racing - Action-oriented Everyone 1-8 SCEA

World Tour Soccer
Sports - Soccer Everyone 1-2 SCEA

but, does that mean that it is going to do better than ANY OTHER HANDHELD SYSTEM EVER has against Nintendo. Remembering that Nintendo has both the DS and the GBA/GBASP, and they both sell regularly, and both sell very well, GBA(sp) has enough games to fill a small country, much like the PS2 does with the exception that the PS2 has enough for one and a half small countries.


Advance Wars DS Strategy Nintendo DS RP Announced Nintendo
Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings Strategy Nintendo DS RP Q4 2005 Majesco Sales Inc.
Air Assault 2 Action Nintendo DS RP Announced Summitsoft
Animal Crossing DS Simulation Nintendo DS RP 2005 Nintendo
Animaniacs: Lights, Camera, Action (DS) Action Nintendo DS RP May 2005 Ignition
Another Code (temporary title) Adventure Nintendo DS RP Announced, Japan Nintendo
Asphalt Urban GT Racing Nintendo DS E Nov 21, 2004 Ubisoft
Boktai (working title) Action Nintendo DS RP Announced Konami
Bomberman DS Action Nintendo DS RP Q3 2005 Ubisoft
Caduceus Action Nintendo DS RP Announced Atlus
Castlevania DS (working title) Action Nintendo DS RP Q4 2005 Konami
Chronicles of Narnia, The: The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe Adventure Nintendo DS RP Q4 2005 Disney Interactive
Disney/Pixar's Cars Action Nintendo DS RP Announced THQ
Disney/Pixar's Finding Nemo Action Nintendo DS RP Q4 2005 THQ
Disney/Pixar's The Incredibles Action Nintendo DS RP Q4 2005 THQ
Dragon Ball Z Action Nintendo DS RP Announced
Dragon Booster (working title) Action, Racing Nintendo DS RP Q4 2005 Konami
Dragon Quest Monsters Action Nintendo DS RP Announced Square-Enix
Dynasty Warriors (working title) Action Nintendo DS RP Q4 2005 Koei
Egg Monster Heroes Action Nintendo DS RP Announced Square-Enix
Feel the Magic: XY/XX Other Nintendo DS T Nov 23, 2004 Sega
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles RPG Nintendo DS RP Announced Square-Enix
Frogger: Helmet Havoc Action Nintendo DS RP Sep 2005 Konami
GoldenEye: Rogue Agent Action Nintendo DS RP Q2 2005 Electronic Arts
Jam with the Band (temporary title) Action Nintendo DS RP Announced Nintendo
King Kong Action Nintendo DS RP Q4 2005 Ubisoft
Kirby: Canvas Curse Action Nintendo DS RP Jun 13, 2005 Nintendo
Lost in Blue RPG Nintendo DS RP Aug 2005 Konami
Madagascar (DS) Action Nintendo DS E May 24, 2005 Activision
Madden NFL 2005 Football Nintendo DS E Nov 21, 2004 Electronic Arts
Mario Kart DS Racing Nintendo DS RP 2005 Nintendo
Mega Man Battle Network Action Nintendo DS RP Announced Capcom
Meteos Action Nintendo DS RP Jun 27, 2005 Bandai
Metroid Pinball (working title) Pinball Nintendo DS RP Announced Nintendo
Metroid Prime Hunters: First Hunt Action, Adventure Nintendo DS RP Nov 21, 2004 Nintendo
Mobile Suit Gundam Seed Action Nintendo DS RP Announced Bandai
Monster Rancher Action Nintendo DS RP Announced Tecmo
Moonlight Fables Action Nintendo DS RP Announced Majesco Sales Inc.
Mr. DRILLER: Drill Spirits Action, Puzzles Nintendo DS E Nov 29, 2004 Namco
Nanostray Action Nintendo DS RP Q3 2005 Majesco Sales Inc.
Need for Speed Underground 2 Racing Nintendo DS E Apr 2005 Electronic Arts
NEW Super Mario Bros. Action Nintendo DS RP Announced Nintendo
Nintendogs Simulation Nintendo DS RP Announced Nintendo
One Piece Action Nintendo DS RP Announced Bandai
Organizer Plus Action Nintendo DS RP Announced Summitsoft
Pac Pix Action Nintendo DS RP Announced Namco
Pac'n Roll Action Nintendo DS RP Announced Namco
PictoChat Productivity, Miscellaneous Nintendo DS RP Nov 21, 2004 Nintendo
Ping Pals Miscellaneous Nintendo DS E Dec 07, 2004 THQ
Pokémon Dash Action Nintendo DS E Mar 14, 2005 Nintendo
Polarium Puzzles Nintendo DS E Apr 18, 2005 Nintendo
Puyo Pop Fever Puzzles Nintendo DS E Apr 26, 2005 Atlus
Rayman DS Action Nintendo DS E Mar 28, 2005 Ubisoft
Retro Atari Classics Action Nintendo DS E Mar 22, 2005 Atari
Ridge Racer DS Racing Nintendo DS E Dec 07, 2004 Namco
Robots Action Nintendo DS RP Feb 22, 2005 Vivendi Universal
Scooby-Doo! Unmasked (DS) Action Nintendo DS RP Q3 2005 THQ
Secret of Mana RPG Nintendo DS RP Announced Square-Enix
Shogun Warrior Strategy Nintendo DS RP Q4 2005 Namco
Slime Morimori Dragon Quest Action Nintendo DS RP Announced Square-Enix
Snowboard Kids DS Sports Nintendo DS RP Q4 2005 Atlus
Sonic DS (working title) Action Nintendo DS RP Announced Sega
Space Invaders Revolution Action Nintendo DS RP Announced Mastiff
Spider-Man 2 DS Action Nintendo DS E Nov 21, 2004 Activision
SpongeBob SquarePants (working title) Action Nintendo DS RP Q4 2005 THQ
Sprung Simulation Nintendo DS T Dec 06, 2004 Ubisoft
Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith Action Nintendo DS RP May 01, 2005 Ubisoft
Super Mario 64 DS Action, Adventure Nintendo DS E Nov 21, 2004 Nintendo
Super Princess Peach Action, Adventure Nintendo DS RP Announced Nintendo
Survival Kids (working title) Action Nintendo DS RP Announced Konami
Texas Hold 'Em Card Games Nintendo DS RP Q3 2005 Majesco Sales Inc.
Texas Hold 'Em Card Games Nintendo DS RP Q4 2005 Summitsoft
Tiger Woods PGA Tour Golf 2005 Golf Nintendo DS E Dec 2004 Electronic Arts
Ultimate Brain Games Puzzles Nintendo DS RP Nov 2005 Telegames
Ultimate Card Games Card Games Nintendo DS RP Sep 2005 Telegames
Ultimate Pocket Games Action Nintendo DS RP Announced Telegames
Urbz, The: Sims in the City Simulation Nintendo DS E Nov 17, 2004 Electronic Arts
Vandal Hearts (working title) Action Nintendo DS RP Announced Konami
Viewtiful Joe DS Action Nintendo DS RP Q4 2005 Capcom
WarioWare: Touched! Action Nintendo DS E Feb 14, 2005 Nintendo
WINX (working title) Action Nintendo DS RP Announced Konami
World Championship Poker: Deluxe Series Casino Nintendo DS E Apr 05, 2005 Crave Entertainment
World Soccer Winning Eleven (working title) Soccer, Sports Nintendo DS RP Announced Konami
Yoshi Touch & Go Action Nintendo DS E Mar 14 2005 Nintendo
Yu-Gi-Oh!: Nightmare Troubadour Card Games Nintendo DS RP Q3 2005 Konami
Zoo Keeper Puzzles Nintendo DS E Jan 31, 2005 Ignition
Zoo Tycoon Simulation Nintendo DS RP Q3 2005 THQ




I would say that Sony looks to be in more trouble than Nintendo. Not saying either are gonna die off, just saying right now Sony is having worse problems.

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Before anyone says, oh, you are nothing but a Nintendo Fan Boy, thats why your opinion is biased. I just want you all to know, I dont want ANY of these companies to go down. I believe that people should know Nintendo is not in as much trouble as everyone thinks.
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